tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-726484495782035142.post8005310343510325531..comments2024-03-28T00:43:37.279-05:00Comments on Future War Stories: The Weapons of Sci-Fi: The COD Black Ops: II 'Peacekeeper' SMGWilliamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17218428427067689631noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-726484495782035142.post-64315237930377751372016-10-07T23:46:26.101-05:002016-10-07T23:46:26.101-05:00Overall this is a good article and I agree (or at ...Overall this is a good article and I agree (or at least see a statement as an acceptable interpretation to some) with most of the points.<br />My biggest disagreement is the projected effective terminal range of 5.7X28mm.<br />This is largely due to the concept of effective range being a controversial topic in and of itself.<br />Take a look at the ballistic gelatin tests for 5.7, and you'll see permanent crush cavities similar in size to a .22 WMR.<br />But then, if you compare the gelatin data for most 5.56X45mm you'll see yawing and/or breaking at the cannelure at 150 meters or less, depending on muzzle velocity. Beyond that, its wound tracks are also consistent with .22 WMR. So, is 5.56X45mm's effective range 500+ meters? Depends on who you talk to and what criteria they use.<br />5.7X28's main advantage is, of course, penetration of body armor in a semi-auto pistol shootable package. <br />And while I personally wouldn't want to get shot by anything beyond airsoft and painballs, 5.7's terminal effects have been seen as comparatively lacking in practice.FrankDude72noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-726484495782035142.post-56214873492423377372013-10-04T13:44:48.234-05:002013-10-04T13:44:48.234-05:00Thanks for the comment! I beg to differ, there are...Thanks for the comment! I beg to differ, there are cartridges specifically developed for use as a PDW. Weapons like the H&K MP7, the Colt MARS, and the FN P90 all had rounds developed for their intended usage...as a close quarters weapon. While some rounds are universal, and came be used for CQC or normal combat, like the 5.45mm and 5.56mm, cartridges like the 4.6x30mm would be less effective than the 5.56mm at greater distances, much like the old M1 carbine .30 vs. the M1 Garand .30-06. This is why PDW cartridges are not seen in assault carbines. The AKS-74U is an interesting weapon, and uses an assault rifle round, the 5.45x39mm, but was intended more as a PDW-type weapon in its intended role...but was quickly adopted by special operations units. The AR-57, while very cool, is a specially civilian weapon...nothing more. <br />Thanks for commenting and readingWilliamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17218428427067689631noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-726484495782035142.post-80241904551913349132013-10-04T12:46:06.327-05:002013-10-04T12:46:06.327-05:00There's some issues with what you are saying. ...There's some issues with what you are saying. Yes it is a "Fictional" weapon by all accounts. Truly, shares more commonality with original designs for Magpul Masada's otherwise known know as the ACR. Carbine designs for the ACR actually look alot closer to this weapon than anything else truly. And being that ACR means Adaptive Combat Rifle and can have several upper and lower recievers allowing it to fire almost all existing military calibers in current usage, it seems to share more in common with that than the AAC Honey Badger. <br /><br />Just look at original designs for ACR rifles, especially carbine versions. And the facts about 5.7x28 being effective out to 200 meters is not entirely true.. Thats it's effective range from a P90. Longer barrels would provide longer range. Even still, lets say 200 was correct. A weapon the size of the Peacekeeper with an effective range like that outclasses any sub-machine gun. And would place it somewhere between a ultra-short carbine and an SMG. Much like the AK-74u which has always been miscategorized in COD games. Also, there is no such thing as a PDW caliber round. It was a new term quoted after the P90 being made, but there's no official definition for what counts as one. Although, there is a movement to give it it's own class in weaponry and what qualifies as one. 5.7x28 would be an ideal round for what the backstory of the Peacekeeper is supposed to be. Other such rounds like 9x39 or .300 Blackout would be good contenders as well. But yes, while a P90 may have a 50 round mag, some prefer a more traditional weapon, and the Peacekeeper fits that bill. Even with a 30 round mag, take the MSMC in Black Ops 2, it too has a 30 round mag, and uses a unique round, and it performs well in the game and in real life for what it was designed for. And I assure you, I've seen AR style weapons in 5.7x28, and they function quite well. Many use 30 round mags too. So dont doubt if it would be effective or not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com