tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-726484495782035142.post2663579970725414486..comments2024-03-28T00:43:37.279-05:00Comments on Future War Stories: FWS Broken Promises: The DUNE Movies Williamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17218428427067689631noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-726484495782035142.post-39830275026879849372022-07-31T16:29:20.764-05:002022-07-31T16:29:20.764-05:00My take on the whole article?
The 1984 version o...My take on the whole article? <br /><br />The 1984 version of <i>Dune</i> should have become a TV miniseries instead of a movie; all of the cut scenes could've been inserted into the miniseries, the banquet scene could've been filmed, and the theme/storyline would be better shown (as a 12-part event similar to <i>Roots</i> and <i>Shogun</i>.) It would have made the same amount of expected money in ad sales due to it being a well-known novel adapted for TV and a sci-fi show popular because the genre was due to <i>Star Wars</i> and the effect it had on entertainment (plus the budget for it and the location shooting would work in its favor much better than the 2000 SyFy miniseries.)<br /><br />I'd like to ask the author: have you seen the new movie? And what do you think of it?Lionel Braithwaitehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05251435131708623589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-726484495782035142.post-79394499801029670382022-03-25T14:49:40.654-05:002022-03-25T14:49:40.654-05:00the film is truly a masterpiece ,most of the deser...the film is truly a masterpiece ,most of the desert scenes of arrakis were filmed in wadi rum of my country JORDAN , this is where Matt Damon's "the martian " was also filmed, such a marvelous location.<br />I was also really surprised of how many Arabic words were used by the freman.<br />Such as lisan Al ghaib , Shai hulud , Al mahdi . And many many others. I hope <a href="https://www.xfire.com/dune-2-script-finished-latest-update/" rel="nofollow">Dune 2</a> will be more awesome.Lucas deephttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05375435586357799545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-726484495782035142.post-92078715443020337212020-03-22T04:59:19.844-05:002020-03-22T04:59:19.844-05:00Like most novels, especially those with several vo...Like most novels, especially those with several volumes, there is repetition. In Dune it was a bit abysmal towards the end.<br />I never watched the films I had left it all behind.Khusruhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03512587253133355625noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-726484495782035142.post-7290025037003017472017-06-23T14:47:01.774-05:002017-06-23T14:47:01.774-05:00dune is one of the best movies of all time and has...dune is one of the best movies of all time and has a completely unique atmosphere<br /><br />and watch the fifth stage edition or shut up in the first place. that is the ONLY way to see the full film in the right orderlmtr14https://www.blogger.com/profile/17787379492851691032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-726484495782035142.post-68438544660568693192013-09-19T08:47:44.651-05:002013-09-19T08:47:44.651-05:00That is very cool that your grandfather was David ...That is very cool that your grandfather was David Lynch's film teacher! And your mother is a smart woman...love the term Lynchism. That scene when Duncan Idaho is killed had such gravity and emotion...but that was in the book. You nailed it, that scene in the movie is confused and frankly dumb when you understand who Duncan Idaho is. <br />Even when you watch the extended edition, the acceptance by the Fremen is still too quick, and the movie makes one believe that the Fremen are all one big tribe and Stilgar is their leader. Paul unites the tribes too quickly. <br />The odd thing about the Weirding Modules was Lynch included them because he didn't want "Kung-Fu on the sand". <br />The shame of the 1984 movie for me is the same reason you mentioned...the design and actors. I love Sting as Feyd, Brad Dourif as Piter and Kenneth McMillen as the Baron...of course, Ian McNeice did an amazing job as the Baron in the miniseries. <br />Thanks for commenting on this blogpost, I was worried that no one would read it...and for the new term that I am going to start using...Lynchism!Williamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17218428427067689631noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-726484495782035142.post-54211531306325280852013-09-18T16:32:08.678-05:002013-09-18T16:32:08.678-05:00Oops... sorry, David Lynch's AFI student film ...Oops... sorry, David Lynch's AFI student film was "Eraserhead", not "Razorhead". Guess is didn't pay enough attention to the rabbit story after all... :CChristopher Phoenixnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-726484495782035142.post-81882400555623116142013-09-18T16:22:56.101-05:002013-09-18T16:22:56.101-05:00But the movie really falls apart when Paul reaches...But the movie really falls apart when Paul reaches the Fremen. Major plot points are cut by the dozen, and the remaining scenes make little sense without them. The Fremen's acceptance of Paul and Jessica looks rushed. The scene where he gets his name is spliced onto the scene where the Fremen find them 'cause the fight with Jamis and Jamis's funeral are cut. So is Harah and her sons, even though they are following Paul around for the rest of the film. There is literally no development of the relationship between Paul and Chani. It literally becomes a voiceover by Victoria Madsen, with also covers most of the fight to halt spice production.<br /><br />But the end really does it, for me. Some of the most important points of the ending- Paul's reunion with Thufir, his intention to marry Princess Irulan and become ruler of the cosmos while utterly ignoring her for Chani- are cut. We get a scene of the midget, sorry, I mean Alia squeakily telling us "Paul is the Kwisatz Haderach" and then it rains on Arakkis... for fucks sake. Still, it is better than Jodorowosky's ending, at least. Not that we were in any danger of seeing THAT filmed.<br /><br />It turns out that ALL the important plot points cut from the theatrical release were filmed, and can be found on youtube. With them, the movie would have made more sense. Of course, David Lynch could not resist showing us the dwarf sandworm being drowned and then vomiting up the Waters of Life, but it was cut. XD<br /><br />On the military side... the battles in Dune really annoyed me. In Dune, all combat is with knifes and swords since all troopers are shielded. A gun would be useless, a laser suicidal. The only kind of firearm useful for shield combat is a slow pellet stunner firing poisoned-tipped darts, and it is iffy whether one will penetrate a shield. But, Lynch's take on battles in Dune were unshielded soldiers running around going pew-pew-pew with big guns shooting cheesy laser bolts!! Despite introducing shield combat with Paul's practice fight with Gurney, the only person who used a shield in combat in the entire movie was Duncan Idaho... killed by a slow pellet stunner in the scene obviously spliced in from later in the movie. And the weirding modules. Those things are just zap-guns by a different name. Combat in the film is a confusing mix of elements from the book and cheesy things that go zap, with none of the coolness of shield fighting.<br /><br />I don't know whether the shielding effect was too difficult to do for whole groups of actors, or if Lynch thought that the Star Wars crowd wanted things that go zap, or that moviegoers would find shield combat too difficult a concept to understand, or if the filmmakers found shield combat too difficult a concept to understand... but the battle scenes in the movie suck, as do some of the special effects for the guild ships.<br /><br />In the end, I prefer the version of the book in my head. XD Christopher Phoenixnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-726484495782035142.post-3486992018282781682013-09-18T16:22:04.487-05:002013-09-18T16:22:04.487-05:00Ah... the Dune movie. I totally love Dune- it has...Ah... the Dune movie. I totally love Dune- it has a complex human story and one of the most well-thought out and layered far-future settings I have ever seen. Herbert thought of almost everything, from the feudal politics to the technology and history of his world. <br /><br />But, for the movies. In my opinion, Lynch's 1984 adaption of Dune started out promising, had some great- almost steampunk- art design and good acting, but fell apart because Lynch cut out most of the major plot points while leaving in most of the weirdness. The end result was a film that couldn't be followed by those who hadn't read the book, and which was too weird to be liked by most fans of the book. My mother actually coined the term "Lynchism" for every weird thing Lynch added to Dune that wasn't in the book as we watched the movie!!<br /><br />Lynch was always known for being weird... I grew up hearing stories about the dissected rabbit that Lynch kept in the freezer for "Razorhead", the AFI student film he made in my grandfather's Advanced Film Studies class. Weirdness didn't seem to be a problem for Lynch, though- he was one of my grandfather's favorite students.<br /><br />When watching Dune, the Lynchisms bothered me far less than the sloppy editing. Many scenes feel like they were cut to bits, than spliced together to fit the scenes that were lost. During the battle scene, we see Duncan Idaho killed, and I recall seeing Paul running around when he supposed to be drugged by Yueh. I think this scene was in Liet Kynes base, and that they cut that whole sequence and spliced it into the battle to get the film down two two hours. Then the Harkonnens randomly kill Kynes, and we don't really know why, while in the book it was because he had helped Jessica and Paul escape while Duncan falls to the Sardaukar.<br /><br />Continued...Christopher Phoenixnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-726484495782035142.post-52178302775501776192013-09-18T04:30:26.600-05:002013-09-18T04:30:26.600-05:00Hi, this blog is really amazing and provide me ans...Hi, this blog is really amazing and provide me answers to all my questions On <a href="http://joshvoiceovers.com.au" rel="nofollow">Voice Over Artists</a>. This is really informative and I will for sure refer my friends the same. I got the freebies with the ComLuv premium and adding this now makes it all even juicier than ever.JoshVoicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14209626835121385787noreply@blogger.com